Re: GUNS: Misleading report by a true believer.

From: Joe Dees (
Date: Mon Mar 05 2001 - 23:30:40 MST

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>Subject: Re: GUNS: Misleading report by a true believer.
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:37:38 -0800
>On Monday, March 05, 2001 6:27 PM Joe Dees wrote:
>> These are the same people who call me commie, fascist, liberal, and other
>> things they believe are bad just because I disagree with their attempted
>> methods of rationalizing their obsessions. I endured a 1200 email flak
>> attack from these freaks once. They can't pry their cold dead minds away
>> from their compulsions, and treat every disagreement with their propaganda
>> front as an invitation to a cyber O.K Corral, and they are
>> unable to restrain themselves from ad infinitum ad nauseum propagandizing.
>> I know full well to whom, and to what, I am speaking when I address them.
>> own five guns, and realize that the safest world is one where all sane and
>> competent noncriminal adults can easily exercise their constitutional
>right to
>> keep and bear, while the kids, psychos and criminals have such access
>> blocked as well as we pragmatically can, but they smell a would-be Maoist
>> dictator behind even the most reasonable efforts to effect same, and rail
>> interminably against !
>> !
>> them.
>We've all been through this too many times. If you just ignore the debate,
>it might -- ah, might! -- go away. Just cool out.
>You also have to realize that when you go into rant mode in an open forum,
>it's the equivalent of screaming like a madman in a restaurant. You might
>think you're directing your comments at a few people -- who you leave
>nameless for the rest of us, so we can't judge -- but everyone reads them
>here, including people who might not have read them before. Including
>people who might just think you're being an ass. (I'm not saying you are,
>then again I rarely read any of the posts with "GUN" in the subject line. I
>also rarely read anything from Ian...:)
>For the record, I'm against any limits on gun ownership, but really this
>on/off debate does nothing to change society or people's minds. You are for
>such limits. Your tantrum did not change my mind. Nor do I believe a
>similar tantrum by someone on my side of the fence will change yours. So,
>what's the point?
When you say NO LIMITS, dose this include convicted violent criminals, three year old kids, and the mentally incompetent and unstable? Are you THAT extremist? How would you work such a system? Would parents be jailed for removing legally purchased guns from their kids' possession? Could prison and asylum wardens be sued for abridging inmates' rights to keep and bear?
Exactly what I want, and if the above can purchase, keep and bear, we will all have less peace, both of body and of mind.
>Daniel Ust

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