Re: The Matrix

From: Anders Sandberg (
Date: Wed May 31 2000 - 07:40:31 MDT

Martin Ling <> writes:

> On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 05:21:36AM -0700, Zero Powers wrote:
> > >From: Martin Ling <>
> >
> > >I've got quite a lot more ideas on this going round - but I'd quite like
> > >to hear everyone's opinions on what I've said so far.
> >
> > I'm impressed.
> Thanks.
> There's a *lot* more to come. I'm trying to get this together into a
> workable RPG, so I'm going to have to cover every inch of the
> background.

What about the cartoons and novellas at the Matrix site? Some seem to
have rather interesting alternate takes on things.

> > If I had read your post before seeing the movie it would have made suspension
> > of disbelief much easier and I'd have enjoyed the movie that much more. I
> > particularly like your take that the AI's are following Asimov's laws and
> > doing what they think we want them to. I just could not buy into the
> > human-Duracel bit. I can't see how we'd make more efficient batteries than,
> > say, solar energy or even an army of cloned electric eels.
> No way at all.
> Personally, I think there were two major ickynesses to the film -
> Morpheus' explanation of the AIs, and the existence of the Oracle.

That Morpheus was making things up in order to sound more impressive
is rather believable - after you have impressed the newbie, you don't
like to admit you haven't got all the answers.

As for the oracle, I can see two explanations. One is simply that she
was a representative/representation of some other, very powerful
system with its own agenda. The other explanation would be that time
in the Matrix does not correspond 1-to-1 with outside time but is
calculated in another order, like Moravec's treatment of HashLife in
Mind Children (this is too hard to handle in a film or rpg, but my
favorite explanation). She was merely telling about already
pre-calculated scenes.

Anders Sandberg                                      Towards Ascension!                  
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