Re: When does cryonics work? (was Re: Our friend Sasha Chislenko is dead)

Date: Thu May 11 2000 - 22:30:02 MDT

In a message dated 5/11/00 7:54:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

<< My view is that the better one is preserved, the sooner they
 will be fully recovered. There really can be no hard this one made it
 and that one didn't. Tippler, Moravec, and others have theorized
 about various ways our children will eventually be able to perfectly
 restore all of us. >>
Hear Hear!

<Until we
<can completely restore him too, we must forever morn, strive, and>
<never give up hope right? Why would anyone want to live and strive>
<for something for a billion years anyway, unless it was to finally get>
<the chance to achieve the ability to meet and be with Sasha, and all>
<of our parents, so we can thank them and pay them back for what>
<they've done and for being our literal creators having given us>
<everything we started with right?>

We need more theorists on this list willing to do the speculative science
papers for this subject and see if anything can ever be done. Cryogenics is
a fabulous idea, but it puts me ( a little) in mind of those Americans who
spent oodles of cash building fallout shelters. The fallout shelters may have
preserved them a couple of weeks; but the ecosystem would have taken a couple
of centuries to revive to enough health to sustain rational-technical
civilization! By then, of course, humanity would have nearly died off. We'd
be back to hunter-gathers using rusting rifles that we might never repair.

All that notwithstanding, we all grieve in different ways; and it will take
time for many to recover their ' vision' for the movement. Sasha's passing
suggests that even with cryogenics, most of humanity alive today and all of
our ancestors have "worked without a net." For those of us who Don't make it
to the Nitrogen Slumber room; we need such a net.


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