Re: Olive Branch of kindness (was Our Friend...)

From: Michael S. Lorrey (
Date: Wed May 10 2000 - 08:34:23 MDT wrote:

> In a message dated 5/10/2000 12:40:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> writes:
> > n honor of Mr. Chislenko, I would like to take this opportunity to
> > categorically apologize to all who may have been offended or annoyed by any
> > of my posts to this list. The ideas I discussed were heartfelt, but the
> > tone (I admit) could have been more conciliatory. And for this I apologize.
> > I also extend the "olive branch" to those who may feel animosity towardme
> >
> > for any of my posts and, in honor of Sasha, I promise to do better.
> >
> This is a very responsible move. I had the same thought - and another thought
> about how about how I'd have felt if someone had been flaming someone online
> and then ve was gone... thanks zero for your considerate words.

Yes, thank you Zero. I feel similarly. From my association with Sasha, I know
that he was an adamant champion of individual liberty and personal privacy. He
gave up his Soviet citizenship in order to come here back in the late 80's, and
he was debating becoming a citizen here, as the INS was encouraging him to become
one. We would joke about him being a 'noncitizen of a noncountry', a true "Man
Without a Country". Even though he was thankful for the US accepting him here, he
was still opposed to the idea that a person should surrender so much of their
freedom and personal productivity to a government merely for the dubious idea
that that government 'grants' the individual his liberty, which seems to be the
vogue today among so many people, and despite the fact that this idea runs
contrary to the Constitution and the Natural Law upon which it is based. That is
not to say he was religious at all. He was very much an atheist, so far as I
could tell, but he shared with me the idea that Natural Law had its roots in the
physical laws of the universe, and how our society has evolved as a result.

One thing I think should be put on a list of 'things to do', is in the event that
a 'Extropia' sovereign nation is ever founded, that he be given posthumous
citizenship, as the first citizen of that nation. It is the least we can do for a
man who has done so much for the extropian principles, and I think he would have
liked that as well. I know that an extropian nation was one of his favored ideas.

Mike Lorrey

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