Re: Death Penalty (was Re: Didn't need no welfare state)

From: James Wetterau (
Date: Fri Apr 21 2000 - 09:49:39 MDT

James Rogers says:
> On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, James Wetterau wrote:
> > James Rogers says:
> > >
> > > "Cop killer" bullets are essentially a media-generated urban
> > > legend.
> > ...
> >
> > My point is that the cops in New York City are permitted to use
> > bullets the general public cannot use -- the so-called "cop killer"
> > bullets -- despite their patrolling streets packed with large numbers
> > of innocent bystanders.
> NYPD doesn't use or allow "cop killer" bullets. They have been using
> ordinary 147gr 9mm for years, although I think they recently moved to 115gr
> +P 9mm, both of which are easily stopped by light body armor. NYPD cops
> are required to use the organization standard ammo and firearms.

I stand (partially) corrected. The 9mm Glock came into use in 1992
(though I think cops were allowed to stick with the old fashioned
service revolvers if they preferred). You are correct that since then
the cops faced an over-penetration problem and switched ammunition.
The NYPD also has a particularly poor record for accuracy in firing.

The recent news has been that the NYPD requested permission to use
more lethal ammunition, too. As of yet, they are not doing so.

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