Re: FiFtEenTh cEntUrY aRt Vs. sTatE oF tHe aRt sCieNcE

From: Natasha Vita-More (
Date: Mon Apr 17 2000 - 20:05:05 MDT

Love the Subject line!

At 04:19 PM 4/16/00 -0400, Michael wrote:

> wrote:

>> The assertion that "real", art must be an object is wrong. Extropic art
>> eschews the rigid idea of art as object and explores various forms of
>>creativity, bioengineering, performance, conceptual art, virtual reality,
>>film media, nanotechnology, ideas, etc., as valid mediums. It must.

Good point.


>yet much art is created with the eye to disenfranchise the eye of the
>general populace. Abstract artists tend to really excell at trying to
>disconnect the audience from understanding.

Abstract artist were following the vogue trend of the arts and sciences at
that time. Regardless of the seemingly remote stance, abstract artists
purposefully tried to create a communication with those who took the time
to learn the language, the terms and the meaning of their work. I think
that this is quite powerful. Instead of the audience looking and pictures
passively, it required that the audience think for themselves and
communicate with the art. Many people did not want to do this because it
took too much time or effort, but those who did fully understood the
concepts of Abstract Art and Abstract Expressionism.


>I can answer this one: because when those of us who are technically
>astute but not aethetically astute take a look at contemporary art, too
>often we feel like we are being asked to wear the emperor's new

If a person doesn't have the talent to be aesthetically astute - why not
at least knowledgeable about aesthetics? Can you imagine an extropian
future without aesthetics? Oh my. On the flip side of this coin, I can't
imagine existing within an extropian community and not learning the terms -
the language - of the current and future sciences and technologies.

>As they say in the movies,"I'll see it when it comes out on video."

Either way, you would be experiencing art -:)


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