Re: POL: Reaction to Microsoft Ruling

From: Technotranscendence (
Date: Wed Apr 12 2000 - 20:56:35 MDT

On Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:04 AM Michael S. Lorrey
> > The ABA is a government supported monopoly. Without the government to
> > its power, it would face serious competition from law clinics (which it
> > already does in some states of the US*), unlicensed lawyers, etc. See,
> > e.g., _The Rule of Experts: Occupational Licensing in America_ by S.
> > Young for other examples of businesses that use the government to avoid
> > market.
> A State Supreme Court ruling in Vermont a few years ago found that the
> requirements that a person's lawyer be an attorney did not explicitly
> that the person have a law degree and be a member of the bar. It was shown
> there is historical evidence that there is a distinct difference between
> the definitions of an attorney is, and what an attorney-at-law is. The VBA
> rather miffed at this....

Good for Vermont and its people. I thought it was a socialist commonwealth.
Guess I had it pegged wrong.:)

> > * Recently, the law clinic at some Louisiana law school was banned from
> > helping people unless the people being helped could prove they made less
> > than some minimum income standard. The reason? People were using the
> > clinic to sue one of the governor's supporters over, I believe, some
> > pollution issue. The Louisiana Supreme Court ruled that this was
> > law without a license -- except in the case of the indigent. In other
> > words, the court protected the monopoly privilige of lawyers from an
> > competitor. (I believe this was on either "60 Minutes" a few months
> Sounds typical, though Lousiana's legal system practices Civil Law rather
> Common Law, so I'm not sure how this would be different.

Somehow, I don't think so. Common Law, btw, is not law is most states of
the US. New Jersey, e.g., went over to statutory law in the 1930s and most
other states have done much the same. This was because of the Progressive
Movement I believe. This does not mean judges don't sometimes try to use
Common Law standards and recommendations, but that almost everything in your
typical court is going to be statutory -- guidelines, sentencing rules, etc.
At least, this is my understanding of the subject.


Daniel Ust

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