Re: Cryonics and organ donation

From: Lee Daniel Crocker (
Date: Fri Apr 07 2000 - 14:03:06 MDT

> So what you are saying is that you don't currently have a protocol for
> neurosuspension customers to simulataneously have their heads guillotined and
> suspended, while the rest of the organs get harvested? I think thats kind of
> short sighted, don't you think? What better way to pay for your suspension than
> off of auctioned off body parts? If you made this legal, suspension would
> basically be free, so the perceived cost barrier (for those who don't think of,
> or don't want to have to keep paying on, a life insurance policy just for the
> suspension) is totally eliminated. Set this up as an accepted medical procedure,
> and it can simply be a non-cash transaction between an organ donor center and
> the donor. Donor centers might find it both profitable, and a good way to
> diversify, to merge with a cryonic suspension organization.

In the future when the medical and legal hurdles to this can be overcome,
that might be a great idea for neuro-suspensions. But today, suspensions
have to be done with the technology we have and under the legal system we
have or they don't get done. The technology makes donation problematic:
even neuros, for example, make use of the full-body circulatory system to
perfuse cryoprotectants, the whole body is frozen, and then "cephalic
isolation" is performed (with a chainsaw) on the frozen body. The legal
problems are worse.

There is also, of course, the uncertainty that neurosuspension will
even work. To be properly skeptical, I cannot rule out the possibility
that some interesting part of what I want to preserve as "me" exists
below my neck. Even if I intend to go the upload route, I can't rule
out that there might be interesting software there either.

Lee Daniel Crocker <> <>
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