Re: Surveilance was: Transhuman fascists?

From: Spike Jones (
Date: Mon Apr 03 2000 - 21:10:50 MDT

Michael S. Lorrey wrote:

> All this incomplete coverage will do is cause more criminals to commit crimes in
> areas that ARENT under coverage. The crime rate in more rural areas will go up,
> people will get whacked out on the moors, etc.

Right you are Mike. If we go with transparent society, we *must* set
aside reservations or no cam zones somewhere. We have repeatedly
demonstrated that we as a society cannot totally eliminate crime. We can
only localize it.

Some of you will be in Palo Alto in May for the Foresight nanoschmooze. There
you may see a social experiment of sorts. In Palo Alto, there is waaay more
money than anyone knows what to do with, therefore there are many
private security systems which include recording, time-stamping cameras.

Just on the other side of the freeway is a community where the Bay Area
has pretty much decided to park its poor, its criminal element, etc, called
East Palo Alto. There are few police there, even fewer security cameras.
Look it over if you are in the neighborhood. If the Bay Area goes transparent,
I would propose East Palo Alto as a no-cam zone. spike

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