Re: Tainted quote

Michael S. Lorrey (
Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:48:52 -0500

Harvey Newstrom wrote:

> The militia movement castrated themselves by confusing their guns with
> their dicks and trying to use both at the same time.

I don't think that is appropriate for the extropians list. But heck, you wanna go at it? Read on...

> Why the hell is this on the Extropians List anyway? Why do you feel the
> need to bring your wacko politics about guns and government conspiracies
> into this list on almost a daily basis?

I didn't start it. I have not been arguing my political opinions here, but stating legal facts.
As far as I am concerned the 'wacko politics' of guns on this list are the statist anti-freedom positions of people like yourself who are for gun control. You are unamerican, anti-freedom, pro-enslavement.

If you think that being shocked that the government can get away scot free with the massacre of hundreds of people is 'wacko politics' then you do not belong in this country. Maybe someplace like, say, Serbia or China is more to your liking...

Things are screwed up in this country precisely because nobody does anything to defend people like that. You can sit on your but down there in Florida and whine about the gang bangers down there, and call me a wacko, but when was the last time you actually got off your but and defended someone elses rights? Even someone you disagree with?

I have never said I sympathized with the politics of those people, but you tar me with the same brush the media uses on those people as a means of denying the reality that our rights are going down the tube and you are too damn lazy to do anything about it. I will fight and die for the rights of any American, even those I disagree with. Can you make the same commitment? I didn't think so.

Extropians are pro-freedom for the individual. Its high time you statists who insist on spouting off on the list realized that and either put up or shut up. Individuals do not get freedom just handed to them. "Oh please, Mr. big goverment thug, can I please have my rights?" or "Oh please Mr. Robber, please respect my property and my daughter's virginity." Is that going to get you anywhere? I didn't think so. What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you seem to understand??????

I remain on the list denouncing the statist yap of people like you. I get at least several messages of support from other subscribers every day who are tired of the list being overrun by socialist pro-government rights-confiscators. They want the list to return to the way it used to be, full of revolutionary fervor. The Extropian Principles are a revolutionary document, its high time you people either got up and made a commitment to start making it happen and fighting for Extropian Justice or get the heck out of the way.

Mike Lorrey