Re: FAQ Additions (Posthuman mind control)

den Otter (
Sat, 27 Feb 1999 21:42:06 +0100

> From: Michael S. Lorrey <>

> den Otter wrote:
> > Morals are subjective, but the most practical (=rational) course of action
> > would be not to create AIs with SI potential and work on uploading instead.
> > Again, our prime directive should _always_ be survival. Survival is the
> > prerequisite for _all_ other actions. Any philosophy that does not value
> > personal survival [in an optimal state] above everything else is by definition
> > irrational. Thus follows that transhumanism (with an immortalist element)
> > is the best philosophy currently available to us.
> Still beating the dead horse of subjective morals I see.

Is it really that dead? ;-)

> Survival is not as
> important as evolution.

???? Evolution is just a tool to increase your chances of survival, and a possible source of entertainment. There can be life without evolution (even quality life for that matter -- one could imagine that an advanced SI could live happily forever without evolving in any significant manner), but there can't be evolution without life.

> It is not extropic to want to live a million years, but to
> not learn anything or change one whit the whole time. The Prime Directive of
> Extropy is that all individuals should have the freedom to learn, to experience,
> to change as the individual sees fit. Being able to live long enough to fill that
> to the individuals satisfaction is a part of that freedom, but not a prerequisite.

Yes it is; without life no [personal] extropy.

> "Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
> - General John Stark

"Death is the ultimate oppressor".

                                       -den Otter