Re: Free will (was: Re: Nucleus Accumbens Transplant)

J. R. Molloy (
Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:27:12 -0800

Scott Badger has written,
>I fail to comprehend how you (or Crick) equate
>unconscious computations with Free Will. Wanting
>to do something (anything) may require a healthy
>"anterior cingulate sulcus," but Crick seems to be
>suggesting that this area is an enigmatic black box
>which serves to covertly puppeteer our behaviors.
>That doesn't sound like any kind of Free Will I've
>heard of.

As Francis Crick has pointed out, and as I previously posted:

"My first assumption was that part of one's brain is concerned with making plans for future actions, without necessarily carrying them out. I also assumed that one can be conscious of such plans -- that is, that they are subject at least to immediate recall."

The part of the brain "concerned with making plans," as Crick clearly stated, "is located in or near the anterior cingulate sulcus."

I read no suggestion into Crick's article of any "black box" doing any "covert puppeteering" and I fail to see your point. I get the feeling you object to Crick's discovery out of anti-scientific bias. Not very extropian, that.

>The great experiment we are a part of addresses the question,
>"Can deluded entities without free will discover and/or transcend
>their true nature?"

To what "great experiment" do you allude? I'd answer your last question with a definite "no" not that it makes any difference to any rational discussion of Free Will. As far as it concerns me, extropy (which, in this context means self-organizing life) coincides perfectly with my "true nature." --J. R.

PS: Please, I beg you, don't bring any of your "deluded entitites" into this thread.

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Determinants may reside in our genes,
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