Re: Extropian environmentalism?

Harvey Newstrom (
Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:04:06 -0500

> "Michael S. Lorrey" <> wrote:
> I don't doubt that sewage and
> agricultural runoff is responsible for some of it, however if that were all it
> was, solving the problem would be easy.

Mike, this is not a theoretical problem. We, in Florida, are really having a problem with effluent run-off killing coral. If you think the solution is easy, please enlighten us. We have tons of run-off weekly, and no one knows how to radically reduce it or change its composition. How would solving this problem be easy?

> tide phenomenon not so long ago, when it turned out to be caused by a
> change in deep sea upwelling currents caused by a hurricane back in the
> 70's which changed shoal patterns around on the east coast....people in
> the gulf of mexico blame oil exploration for all of the gunk that floats
> around, when the majority is due to the large amount of natural oil seeps
> that are present, plus the fact that the geography makes the gulf a
> natural wind trap for all of the garbage in the sea...

You really believe that garbage naturally collects in the Gulf without humans actually dumping garbage? You really believe that anybody can confuse natural oil seeps with spills of highly-refined petrolium products? You have been listening to too much Rush Limbaugh. You probably believe that El Nino and La Nina are liberal political theories, and that NASA fakes its satellite data as part of the Clinton criminal conspiracy.

Sorry, but I live and grew up in Florida. I studied biology at Florida Tech., and they specialize in Oceanography, performing a lot of work around Florida. None of the crack-pot theories you have cited are heavily pushed in the scientific sector. I hear these kinds of theories from Republicans more than Biologists.

Harvey Newstrom <>
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