Socialism...(Was Re: Extropy and Rednecks)

Terry Donaghe (
Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:36:04 -0800 (PST)

Who was it that said, "Communism is just another step on the long road from Capitalism back to capitalism."

I think it was Dennis Miller talking about the collapse of the Soviet Union. I've always liked that quote. I think socialism would work as well.

---"Michael S. Lorrey" <> wrote:
> wrote:
> > In a message dated 1/15/99 12:43:57 PM Central Standard Time,
> > writes:
> >
> > >
> > > But does socialism inherently involve advocating the use of
force? Can't
> > > it be organized on a voluntary basis?
> >
> > I don't recall any instance where socialism hasn't involved force,
> > Have there been actual examples?
> >
> I would say that with the sole exception of communes and kibbutzes,
which still
> relied on significant amounts of peer pressure, no socialist
organization with any
> political power has worked for very long without force. My opinion
for this is
> that since communalism is so much of an anathema to human nature
that force must
> be used to maintain a population in permanent residency. Note that
communes and
> kibbutzes do have significant turnover levels, mostly of young
adults coming and
> going once they got the socialist bug worked out of their systems. I
admit that
> when I was a teenager that I considered myself a socialist for about
two weeks...
> then I regained my sanity and actually thought things through. I
once heard
> someone say that they would be worried about a person who had not
been a socialist
> for at least 15 minutes in their lives....
> Mike Lorrey

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