Re: Extropians and animal rights

Ian Goddard (
Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:38:05 -0500

At 01:48 PM 1/12/99 -0500, Mike Lorrey wrote:

>> IAN: I agree. There's an interesting correlation
>> between serial killers, like Jeffrey Dommer (sp?),
>> and torture of animals, such that a high percentage
>> of the most brutal serial killers first tortured
>> animals, usually when they were kids. They see
>> the similarity between humans and animals, but
>> only in the worst ways imaginable. With this,
>> we can see that the way person x treats animals
>> is a measure of how person x could treat humans.
>> A society that was particularly brutal toward
>> animals would probably be more inclined than
>> the less brutal society to effect various
>> forms of brutality on the human animal.
>You purposely left out that the same study found that people raised as
>have an incidence of such violent crime far below the average, which is a
>markedly different result than those who torture animals....

IAN: Why is it necessary to make a personal (ad hominem) accusation? I am neither aware of nor was I referring to the study you do, and thus your claim that I am is a lie. What I say is based on something I saw on the program "The Justice Files."

If the study you refer to pertains to modern times, I'd note that most raised as hunters live in rural areas with lower crime rates, so your implication that killing some animals engenders compassion for others could be false.

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