Re: Dyson (Was: Paths to Uploading)

Samael (
Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:21:56 -0000

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Donaghe <>

>---Samael <> wrote:

>> From: Terry Donaghe <>

>> Anyone who promotes or advocates the theft of earnings for
&gt;> >"redistribution" is also advocating violent force against members of
>> >society.
>> I wish people wopuld stop quoting this ridiculous assertion.
>> I'll quite happilt come along while your out and pick up your goods.
> You
>> don't have to be in while I do. Therefore, no violence.
>> Samael
>You're saying burglary is ok? Are you saying that redistribution is
>not violent? Please tell me what's rediculous about equating theft
>with violence...

Depends what you mean by violence. If you mean physical violence then it's perfectly possible to redistribute without it (I'll just pop in when you're out).

>I know that you don't believe that men should be allowed to keep what
>they earn (property), so I guess the argument is pointless.

As I stated numerous times in the previous argument (which I stopped participating in becaue it was causing more heat than light), I do believe that people should be allowed to keep the vast majority of the money they earn. I just don't believe in "rights" as an absolute. I believe rights are assigned by society or taken by a person. I certianly don't believe that the right to property is an absolute (although I beleive it's extremely useful so it should be protected in numerous ways). I just believe there are greater goods than property protection (life protection, for instance).