Re: Dyson (Was: Paths to Uploading)

joe e. dees (
Thu, 07 Jan 1999 20:05:47 -0600

Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
> > > If he's a socialist/collectivist, I'd have to take anything he says
> > > with a HUGE grain of salt. Looters aren't to be trusted, ya know.
> >
> > Imagine Albert Einstein breaking a store window and grabbing the
> > merchandise, running away with a boom box on his shoulder, his wispy
> > white hair flying in all directions as the German physicist anxiously
> > looks back over his shoulder for pursuing cops.
> > That's the kind of morals and ethics he had, right, Terry?
> Well, if one is to be consistent in applying moral judgment to
> everyone, then yes, those were his morals. That he chose to steal
> with votes rather than a mask and gun is no excuse to me. I can,
> however, separate the genius and scientific integrity of the man
> from his lack of personal integrity.
> > In my experience, many if not most pure scientists and mathemeticians
> > lean towards socialism...
> A consequence of definition: "pure" scientists and mathematicians
> are those in academia rather than in productive enterprise. Since
> our system socializes education and a lot of research, it is
> expected that those who do well in that environment think of it as
> natural and normal. If you look at scientists and mathematicians
> who actually work for a living--say those doing R&D in big industry,
> insurance actuaries, bookies--I'm sure you'll get a different picture.

Yeah; instead of communists, they tend to be fascists.
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