Re: MJ, carnitine and DHEA (Was: Re: Time for a jump in

CountZero (
Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:10:29 -0500

Obviously overuse is a bad idea but for myself, some of the best code I've
written has been produced while mildly stoned.

There's nothing wrong with doing drugs, it's when the drugs start doing
_you_ that you have to worry.

Rule of thumb: If it spills over into other areas of your life in a
negative way, it needs to be looked into.

At 01:35 PM 3/31/98 +1000, you wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, den Otter wrote:
>> Point by point:
>> Fun -- This is something most people can agree on ;-) I have found that the
>> more depressed you are before use, the happier you will get after. There is
>> no dip as you "return to normal"; you stay in a good mood (effects may
>> vary from person to person, and from situation to situation but ik works
>> for me).
>> Aphrodisiac -- THC increases the heart rate and general blood flow,
>> while at the same time inhibitations melt away and the imagination works
>> overtime. These are the clinical facts, the real thing is MUCH better
>> (try for yourself).
>> Better sensory processing -- all senses are intensified, and it's a lot
easier to
>> focus on any one of them. Food for example becomes a whole new
>> experience.
>> Critical thinking -- when high you see all kinds of interesting things
>> events and people that you didn't notice before, new insights often just
>> into your head.
>> I know many people on this list are prejudiced when it comes to drugs
>> like marijuana, but they should really try it for themselves first (a
>> of times, it usually doesn't work properly the first time) and then make an
>> *informed* judgement. You don't have to explain why MJ is
>> transhumanistically relevant to anyone who has actually tried it ;-)
>i'm not so sure. i do agree with its effects as an aphrodisiac and a
>sensory enhancer, but not as as a critical thinking tool due to two
>reasons. Firstly, most of the "great ideas and insights" you get when you
>(or at least i) are stoned, are just pretty standard cool ideas otherwise
>(that is ideas that you do get while in normal state but don't get past
>the higher critical level of "originality" needed for it to be remembered)
>Secondly, it puts me to sleep, unless i fight it, so not much enjoyment
>conciously registered. I also am definitely no happier the next day.
Think of it as evolutio in action.