> > Michael Lorrey wrote:
> > > While the Empire was stagnant, the middle ages was not caused by
> > > the church, but by the pillaging and destruction of the Mongol Hordes,
> > > the Viking incursions, and the general migratory habits of the various
> > > tribes of 'barbarians' such as the Vandals, the Visigoths, the Angles,
> > > the Franks,
> etc.
>
> Dwayne wrote:
> > Sigh. Look, if you're ignorant of history, don't parade it.
> > The mongols never made it past Vienna. In fact I don't think they
> > made it *to* Vienna. ...
>
> You may be thinking of the Turks, who besieged Vienna in 1529 and 1683.
> The Mongols (coming through Poland) reached central Germany, if memory
> serves; they turned back in 1241 because their leader died.
The Mongols (coming through Poland) reached central France; there are
today a population in France with the gens of Mongols (f. exs the Mongols
spot).
Sincerely
N. MYOWNA
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