And Chelsea Makes 3 (was Re: Bill and Hillary)

Michael M. Butler (butler@comp*lib.org)
Mon, 16 Feb 1998 23:01:24 -0800


Re this: what's the Idea Futures URL? I have a naughty bit of culture
jamming I want to post. It's a pool on the date that Chelsea takes her
first puff of marijuana while she's at Stanford. Hmm, I bet she inhales.

:)

No, I have nothing against Chelsea _or_ her probably inevitable
experimentation.

Yes, hypocrisy needs to be drawn up short when its practitioners have a
monopoly on the _soi-disant_ "legitimate use of force".

MMB

At 03:20 PM 2/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Mark D. Fulwiler wrote:
>
>> Daniel Ust wrote:
>>
>> > If he and Hillary had said from the start that they have an open
>> > marriage and the Bill likes to fool around, fine. But this is not
>> > what he's done. In fact, this goes against his professed
>> > beliefs. Thus, it does not require adherence to any
>> > _antisexual_ moral code to see this as a character flaw.
>>
>> Why are Bill and/or Hillary obligated to tell us the truth about their
>>
>> private sexual lives? If they want to put on some charade for the
>> public, what of it? Someone once said that hypocrisy is the tribute
>> vice
>> pays to virtue. My personal opinion is that the Clintons should just
>> respond to any questions of a sexual nature with "That's none of your
>> business."
>>
>> Mark Fulwiler
>
>I'm sorry, but I have to laugh when I hear the "none of your business"
>or "wait until he is proven guilty of a crime" stuff trotted out to
>defend Clinton.
>
>Maybe if he and his wife (and all the other politicians) left me alone,
>I'd reciprocate. But here's a guy who thinks nothing of backing drug
>forfeiture laws which seize an individual's property without even
>charging the person with a crime!
>
>Who has his drug czar threaten doctors who might prescribe marijuanna to
>their patients, even after the general public agrees in vote that they
>want more health freedom.
>
>I'd love for Bill and Hillary to get to say "None of your business" when
>it comes to their personal life, but dang it they keep bringing 'round a
>village to run my life...from raising my kids to nationalizing my health
>care.
>
>Here's a pair who've proposed to punish us if we attempt to get better
>or even different medical care than our neighbors, (e.g., by spending
>your own money for a covered operation), both you and your doctor will
>be committing a federal crime.
>
>Who favor Federal health-care police authorized to enter your home
>without search warrants for "indoor air-quality inspections" and "well
>baby" visits. If they decide you have an "unhealthy" home
>environment, existing child-abuse laws authorize them to immediately
>take away your children.
>
>Their "Comprehensive School Health Education" initiatives authorize the
>government to shape
>your children's behavior involving "Tobacco use; alcohol and other drug
>abuse; sexual behaviors ... ;
>behaviors resulting in intentional and unintentional injuries; dietary
>patterns resulting in disease; and
>sedentary life styles . . ." [HSA, pp. 607-608]
>
>Under Clinton's plan, your doctor would be forced to turn over all of
>your medical information to a
>federal computer center. Your children would be registered with the
>state from birth. If your doctor
>withholds any information, he can be fined $10,000 per violation,
>without trial. [HSA, p. 871]
>
>And Bill want us all to carry to carry a government-issued Health
>Security Card which could hold up to 1,600 pages of information about
>you.
>
>Your mandatory ID card and government health files will make nearly
>every detail of your life an
>open book to millions of bureaucrats, IRS agents, and police officers.
>Once they run your card
>through a scanner, they'll know everything you've ever written on a
>medical form or told your doctor:
>your address, phone number, employer, drug history, every physical and
>mental disorder,
>pregnancies and abortions -- and even you doctor's personal notes.
>
>Clinton's plan creates 105 new government agencies, and greatly expands
>the power of 42 others. Hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats will
>monitor you and your doctor, reeducate your children, and enter your
>office and home at will.
>
>Yeah, poor Bill Clinton, let's stay out of his private life.
>
> Pat
>Fallon
>
>pfallon@bigfoot.com
>
>
>
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not one at the expense of the other." -- Liam A. Chu

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