Re: We luv the guv't

James Daugherty (
Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:56:01 -0500

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Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: We luv the guv't

|There is a problem with conspiracy theories. On the whole, they
|are wrong.

Unsupported assertion.

|Surely, people do conspire, but it is not as successful
|as conspiracy theorists think.

Unsupported assertion.

|Also, as for its utility, it has a way of backfiring. Those deeply
|mired in conspiracy theories, from my experience, are either
|apathetic -- because they believe they are impotent while any
|group of conspirers are omnipotent -- or pro-government --
|because they think government as a institution is great, if
|it weren't for those evil conspiracies. In other words, eliminate
|the conspiracies and we can have a welfare state or a total
|democracy that really works. Thus, they are utopians.

True, the wrong conspiracy theories can be bad for liberty. That is
why it is important that liberty advocates get off their butts and
show government for the conspiracy of special, predatory interests it is.

Government itself rides on conspiracy theories, ie. the one that
the private sector is rife with predation from which only government
can protect us....however, objectively it is government that always
has been the conspiracy against liberty and justice. Libertarians,
individualists, and extropians need to counter with the appropriate,
objective conspiracy theories integrated with an advocacy of liberty.

|These are the risks you run if you spread this meme. Another
|risk is that those who have no affinity for the simplistic

The objective conspiracy theories are not simplistic....they are very
complex, in fact, the very essence of the heirarchal complexity that
is society.

|explanations of conspiracy theorists tend to think you are a
|kook. Thus, you gain influence amongst simpletons only to
|lose it amongst those who would be better to have as allies.

If you are an extropian you are a kook. If you are a libertarian you
are a kook. If you have an objective, instead of pro-govt wishful
view of government, you are a conspiracy kook. The existing intelligencia
is the essence of STATISM....they have to be defeated. If your "pro-
liberty" strategy does not ellicit howls of outrage and derision
from the Statist intelligencia you are doing something wrong.

|I wouldn't bring this up if the average person, rightly or
|wrongly -- and this applies to the average smart person
|too -- thinks our ideas are weird or even insane. Now,
|couple transhumanism/Extropianism with conspiracy
|theories and see if you are taken more seriously.

Would make no difference to those who react only on the
basis of determining if an idea is socially acceptable...Extropianism
is not socially acceptable, libertarianism is not socially acceptable,
conspiracy theory is not socially acceptable...ONLY THE GROWING
the State's memetic field.

|Daniel Ust

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