> >I disagree. I think to have a belief in something, one must have a reason
> >for that belief.
>
> Ok........
>
> >Absent a reason, then the belief is unjustified or unverified.
>
> Justification is relative; unverified depends on whether the method of
> verification is accepted, also relative.
>
> >So, if there is no data -- a claim a disagree with; the universe is here,
> that
> >is data enough for atheists to claim "This is what is." -- there is no
> reason
> >for a belief in God.
>
> That may be an atheist conclusion, but to me it is not valid or true.
>
> > Thus, theists must offer some other argument or come
> >up with data.
No. Theists WHO WISH TO LOGICALLY CONVERT OTHERS must do this.
My reasons for believing in my Goddess are as real as my reasons for
believing in the rock I stub my toe on. However, they are
*entirely* subjective and *mostly* internal, and I neither expect or
desire anyone else to believe in any deity in response to *my*
reasons.
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