Re: Eurocracy (was Re: Immortality and Resources)

J. de Lyser (
Sat, 08 Feb 1997 00:23:23 +0100

At 10:46 7-02-97 +0100, Max M Rasmussen wrote:

>Hardly anyone actually likes EU. Hey this is Europe, we've been >fighting
allways. Why should we suddenly love each other?

Yes, this whole EC "pressure" thing is ruining my plans of trying to figure
out what territorial claims Belgium had on Denmark, and agitate some
against your country in hopes of making a political career quickly. For
which the time is perfect, with all this long dorment nationalism being
revived by anti europe movements...

Sorry, didn't mean this one, i believe in the self determination right of
nations, and peoples within, and individuals within, i just hope
individualist ideals are not being confused with nationalist ones.

>> We might be
>> looking forward to an Europe with several incompatible reality models
>> actively interfering in each other, each strongly supported by different
>> memetic evolutionary pressures. Very fun, if you have a sense of
>> Kafkaesque humor.

I think Europe might be formed a lot more 'capitalistic' and a lot less
'socialistic' than you think: The Germans have the most money, so they'll
probably decide most of what Europe will look like...

>I think that the best we can do is to spread the Transhuman idea, >and
then let people find out for themself why the EU is a bad idea.

Why be anti-EU, and not anti-national state ? Maybe on a European level we
can acchieve some of our goals. Less you want that fourth colony on the
mars to be French or German instead of european ofcourse...

J. de Lyser