Re: women in the arts and sciences ( ws HUMOR: Anti-cryoni

Kathryn Aegis (
Wed, 22 Jan 1997 23:12:51 +0000

I enjoyed your post on Camille Claudel, may I please ask a followup
>This is not to imply that it was Rodin who was responsible, nor men, but the
>continued victim status that women choose to accept. IMHO.

This statement seems to contradict the rest of your post, and it may
be because you chose the word 'status'. If Camille
worked relentlessly on her art, and the art world refused to accept
it; and then her husband stole her techniques and he was lionized by
the art world, what in the world could she have done to change her
'victim' status? I assume that if she had left her husband she would have
been ostracized by all of her support structures in her family and
community in addition to being ignored by the art world. Under a
basic analysis, she possesses a victim 'status', although I wouldn't
necessarily use that word.

However, if we focus on mentality, the entire picture changes.
Camille clearly did not accept her lot in life, continued to work for
her art against all odds, and refused to give into a victim
'mentality'. Could that be what you mean? I wish that it had
changed her life more, tho.


Kathryn Aegis