# Re: Hole in a box

From: Spudboy100@aol.com
Date: Tue Feb 19 2002 - 10:44:10 MST

Mr. Newstrom's calculations seems so delightfully, optimistic, that even when
the old notion of it being "too good to be true", I say hoo-hah! Make it be
so!

In a message dated 2/19/2002 8:57:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,
louisnews@comcast.net writes:

<< > Anders wrote:
> > Assume we can store x bits / kg of matter. One stored bit is
> > worth c^2/x J of energy if its substrate is transmuted.

: I disagree with your premise. As Godel pointed out, a single integer can
: store an infinite amount of information:
: Digitize the information into discrete bytes a, b, c, ...
: Encode a single integer as 2^a * 3 ^b * 5^c ... using prime numbers for the
: base.
: Any unique infinate data will have a unique result.
: Then take only TWO atoms and store the number as say the number of inches
: betwen them.

Thus, any two atoms can store an infinite amount of information. (The only
limit in the scheme I have given is the size of the universe in inches.)
Given cleverness in how to store large integers, I don't think there is a
limit based on the amount of matter in the universe.

The real energy shortage will be in how much energy it takes to read/write
information. All reading and writing of data seems to require energy.
Thats where the energy cost will lie. >>

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