Re: Hole in a box

Date: Tue Feb 19 2002 - 10:44:10 MST

Mr. Newstrom's calculations seems so delightfully, optimistic, that even when
the old notion of it being "too good to be true", I say hoo-hah! Make it be

In a message dated 2/19/2002 8:57:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes:

<< > Anders wrote:
> > Assume we can store x bits / kg of matter. One stored bit is
> > worth c^2/x J of energy if its substrate is transmuted.
: I disagree with your premise. As Godel pointed out, a single integer can
: store an infinite amount of information:
: Digitize the information into discrete bytes a, b, c, ...
: Encode a single integer as 2^a * 3 ^b * 5^c ... using prime numbers for the
: base.
: Any unique infinate data will have a unique result.
: Then take only TWO atoms and store the number as say the number of inches
: betwen them.
 Thus, any two atoms can store an infinite amount of information. (The only
 limit in the scheme I have given is the size of the universe in inches.)
 Given cleverness in how to store large integers, I don't think there is a
 limit based on the amount of matter in the universe.
 The real energy shortage will be in how much energy it takes to read/write
 information. All reading and writing of data seems to require energy.
 Thats where the energy cost will lie. >>

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Fri Nov 01 2002 - 13:37:40 MST