Re: Gods

From: animated silicon love doll (
Date: Thu Feb 07 2002 - 19:43:12 MST

2002.02.06 04:33:37, "Alex Ramonsky" <> wrote:

>...Has anybody defined what they mean by the word 'magic/k' yet? How many
>misunderstandings are based on semantics? On the other hand, the conclusions
>we jump to do reveal a lot about ourselves...

My best definition would be along the lines of Crowley's: "Magick is the art and science of
causing change in reality in conformity with Will" (or close to that, I don't know the exact
wording off the top of my head.).
So, in short, mental bootstrapping.
(This of course, requires a definition of Will. "Intent" is probably a better word. Will could
be said to contain the entire process of imagining something - figuring out how it is done -
doing it.)

>And 'magic'. Sci-fi turns into reality? How many times?...If we 'play' hard
>enough on the surface, the real work goes on underneath. That's all I think
>people mean when they speak of 'magic'. In another couple of years it will
>have some respectable name, such as 'Biofeedback Psychology', and will be
>another useful neurohacking software tool.

Yep. Neurolinguistic Programming plays quite a large part in modern chaos magick,

Bradbury said:
>> I would sooner believe that one could change the neural connections
>> in your mind to *really* believe that magick had happened than
>> you could change the physical laws of the universe. It comes
>> down to a simple question of which is more malleable.

Or you just believe on observation.. I bitch about running into constant red lights, do a bit
of mental acrobatics, and note that every (or very nearly, nothing's perfect) traffic light is
green for the rest of the day. Sometimes this has lasted a few days or a week; depending
on my general state of mind.

The ironic thing here is that magick generally isn't useful for much more, at least in my
experience. Plenty of intimate subjective things can happen in my head and sometimes in
another persons if we're very close and working together; but try and do anything more
practical than nudging small coincidences into favorable conditions and I fail, rather

>An experiment: How do you react to this:
>'I am alone.
>I am afraid.
>And it feels brilliant.'

Scared to death of being alone and afraid, but I wish I was able to not feel like killing
myself at the times when I am.

cheshire morgan. we all create life, some of us with wombs,
                        some with smiles, some with patient hands.
                        we are all gods, if we choose to be.

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