Re: I Want To Disbelieve

From: J Corbally (
Date: Tue Jan 22 2002 - 17:49:31 MST

>Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:59:52 -0600
>From: "Randy Smith" <>
>Subject: Re: I Want To Disbelieve
> >From: "Clint O'Dell" <>
> >Reply-To:
> >To: <>
> >Subject: I Want To Disbelieve
> >Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 19:03:10 -0500
> >
> >This article was printed in Portfolio Weekly (January 22nd issue) and
> >written by D.D. Delaney.
> >
> >I Want To Disbelieve
> >
> >PAT ROBERTSON, take note. A young man has come to Virginia Beach with a
> >mission to make the world safe for atheists and free-thinking secular
> >humanists, and his organizational model is the Christian Coalition.
> >
> >Clint O'Dell is just getting started, but, like Pat before him, he hopes to
> >go far. He has a vision of a global Atheist Coalition, with its own
> >broadcasting system, charities, and a political agenda to defeat
> >faith-based
> >legislative initiatives and elect atheists to high office.
> >
> >Describing himself, at 23, as "the youngest atheist activist there is,"
>There are younger--Micah White, for instance....but who cares?

I'm not sure there are many in the various atheist communitites who are of
his age. Not in leading roles, anyways.

> >O'Dell believes there is an atheist awakening dawning in America.
> >
> >I'm hoping to pick up (that) slow-moving ball," he says, "put it in a
> >cannon, strike a match, and set off that cannon."
>That is going to be MIGHTY slow mover...but we ahve to start somewhere.

It does seem to have picked up recently. The results of a recent study
showing that "non-believers" were a larger portion of the U.S. population
than previously thought may help some (estimated at 37 Million, IIRC).

> >
> >In partnership with like-minded Lauren Floyd of Chesapeake, he has put out
> >a
> >call for all doubters, skeptics, and non-believers to attend the first
> >meeting of Freethinkers and Atheists of Virginia on Sunday, Jan. 27, from
> >1-3 p.m. in the auditorium of the Virginia Beach Central Library.
> >
> >The organization's purpose, O'Dell says, is to achieve legitimacy for
> >atheism and "to promote secular values." Membership is open to "anyone who
> >is for helping to make America become more secular."
> >
> >"We have no idea" how many people might turn out for the first meeting,
> >says
> >Floyd, who, at 43, is O'Dell's senior partner in the start-up. "Getting
> >atheists to join a group is kind of like trying to herd cats. They're
> >typically individualists, suspicious of any organized group."
>Atheists have been the subject iof a few studies; one recent one said that
>atheists were by nature less dependent on other people. So therefore they
>are not joiners; therefore they do not organize....

True, but then look at this list, and >Humanism/Extropianism in
general. I'd wager the greater percentage here are non-believers. People
here have been speaking of others here as "family", myself included.

I don't think atheists are particularly bad "joiners". I think they need a
very good idea to rally behind, and compelling reason to do it, which are
perhaps things that haven't been available in the past. Also, there seems
to be something of a self-reinforced "don't ask, don't tell" policy in the
non-believeing community, where people see it as unwise or unimportant to
be openly non-believing. After all, no Christian would think twice about
professing his faith. Atheists in some places, need to stop and think
about it.

I wonder if 9/11 has something to do with this "atheist awakening", if such
in fact exists? Perhaps the religious resurgence resulting has stepped on
a few too many infidel toes?


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