Re: We're stuck with each other

From: Samantha Atkins (
Date: Mon Jan 21 2002 - 20:49:43 MST

Eliezer S. Yudkowsky wrote:

> Harvey, you have a *very* strange way of looking at the world -- speaking
> numerically.
> Right now, there are six billion people alive in the world. Even if the
> Singularity is delayed until 2025, I doubt there will be more than seven
> or eight billion people alive at the time. That's less than one
> pre-Singularity human for each star in the Milky Way. In a billion years
> there will *still* be, at most, six billion entities who were uniquely
> alive before the Singularity. When the Afterglow of the Big Bang is over
> and matter has stopped gathering in clumps and burning by fusion, there
> will still be only six billion of us.
> Do you really need to postulate that we are a small group among that six
> billion?

True, but of that six billion I would really surprised if more
than 1 in 100,000 originally opts for (or perhaps can afford)
uploading or whatever other treatement leads toward immortality.
So that would give 60,000 initials, roughly speaking. Hopefully
the rest will come around or might after spending enough
lifetimes in a VR grokking the alternatives. But since we
aren't planning (AFAIK) to force anyone it is not likely that as
6-8 billion will go for it immediately.

- samantha

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