Socio-sexual complication

From: Jacques Du Pasquier (
Date: Fri Jan 18 2002 - 13:08:41 MST

Harvey Newstrom wrote (18.1.2002/11:31) :
> Mike Lorrey wrote,
> > Uh, maybe we've got a different dictionary up nawth here, but sodomy is
> > anal sex specifically. Making out doesn't cut it, nor is making out
> > 'sex', at least by the Bill Clinton definition, nor is exposure of one's
> > tongue a violation of public nudity laws. So were they doing anything
> > more than kissing and what an earlier age called 'heavy petting'?
> Dictionary definitions have nothing to do with laws. Almost all sodomy laws
> include oral sex as well. In Florida, sodomy laws do not even require a
> penis to be involved. Believe it or not, the law was specifically amended
> to allow mothers to breast-feed their babies!

Oh my god... It's good to realize that European society has at least
in SOME domains less baggage than (part of) the US...

"Américains, encore un effort si vous voulez être républicains!"*


* Scholarly note from the Editor: The author is referring to a
philosophicomical pamphlet written by Sade after the French
Revolution, called "Français, encore un effort si vous voulez être
républicains" [Yet Another Effort, Frenchmen, If You Want to Become
Republican], in which he makes, among many other things, a long
defence of sodomy. I remember of a very broad (and partly invented)
evocation of sodomy across time and space, in many tribes and
cultures, concluding that wherever we turn to, we are to see it
practiced, and specifically adding that if we go to the moon, no doubt
we will discover that they do it there, too. (I'm not sure this was
actually confirmed, however -- I was busy being born that week.)

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