Re: Mike Darwin on the gov't interference of dependent cryonicists

From: Mike Lorrey (
Date: Mon Jan 07 2002 - 06:34:10 MST

John Grigg wrote:
> This is a great post by Mike Darwin on the harrowing situation people interested in cryonics can find themselves when very dependant on government aid.
> From:
> Driven from the Pack asks:
> > Does anyone have any comments on the possible impact
> > of life insurance policies as noted above?
> > How about in the case where the cryo org (e.g., Alcor)
> > "owns" the policy, but the cryonicist makes the
> > payments?
> The problem Jan Cotzee describes is very real and it does apply to the
> elderly. In fact, $2,000 in assets are allowed to be retained by Medicare,
> but no more. You must spend down to this level of assets before government
> financial assistance will kick in.
> I have a fair amount of experience in this area (recent) because of friends
> with HIV who are in support groups and because I am in a support group for
> SOs of people with terminal illnesses. You learn a lot by listening to the
> horror stories of others. Also, the social workers are very helpful in
> providing detailed information, and additional first hand horror stories.

It seems, then, that there is definitely a need for an offshore cryonics
facility which allows those who are terminal to choose to die and be
cryopreserved. Otherwise, be prepared to start robbing banks.

HMMM, I'm now wondering if it's possible to get group discounts? This is
morbid, of course, but lets say an entire family dies at the same time
and is signed up for neurosuspension, can you get the whole family
condo'ed in a full sized dewar for the cost of a single full body

Nother idea: a charitable trust, the Broke Extropian Freezing Fund
(BEFF), dedicated to the neurosuspension of deserving broke terminal

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