Re: The Friendly Skies meets "Schedule Suntan", Fwd: Nekkid Air

From: Damien Sullivan (
Date: Sat Jan 05 2002 - 22:19:38 MST

On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 11:21:15PM +0100, Anders Sandberg wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 27, 2001 at 04:33:33PM -0500, Smigrodzki, Rafal wrote:
> >
> > The majority of Americans (according to some recent polls) prefer knowledge
> > over trust, by supporting the use of electronic surveillance technology on
> > public roads. The transparent society, and the well-founded trust possible
> > in it, will soon be coming to the parking lot near you.
> Trust is possible in a transparent society, but a transparent society
> doesn't necessarily lead to trust.

"On this rock we had built our church. We had founded our idealism on
the most nihilistic implications of science, our socialism on crass
self-interest, our peace on our capacity for mutual destruction, and our
liberty on determinism. We had replaced morality with convention,
bravery with safety, frugality with plenty, philosophy with science,
stoicism with anaesthetics, and piety with immortality."
  Ken MacLeod, the Cassini Division

Add 'We had replaced trust with surveillance', perhaps?

What else could we play with? I somehow had the idea that 'governance'
in _Deepness in the Sky_ referred to some automated legal system as much
as a political government, so 'We had replaced government with
governance'. Which kind of works for MacLeod's Solar Union as well.

-xx- Damien X-)

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