Re: SciFi&Eco: Back to the Future?

From: Charlie Stross (
Date: Tue Jan 16 2001 - 13:17:48 MST

On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 02:12:26PM -0500, Michael S. Lorrey wrote:
> > But I find your construction of the rights of human beings as contingent
> > on citizenship recognized by a national government curiously, um, curious --
> > it's not a very libertarian position, is it?
> No its not, but our legal system is no longer oriented toward a
> libertarian society, is it? My personal opinions of rights are based on
> a libertarian construction. My interpretation of the current general
> public interpretation of rights as they are currently recognised in our
> 'unfree world' is as I stated. Notice the delineation between the two.

Fair enough. We're tip-toeing around the difference between the way things
are and the way things should be. (Which seems to be one of the defining
themes for this list ...)

Is it possible to be a citizen without being born? Can we come up with a
definition of citizenship that doesn't involve national governments? Tune
in for next week's thrilling episode ...

-- Charlie

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