Re: SciFi&Eco: Back to the Future?

From: Michael S. Lorrey (
Date: Tue Jan 16 2001 - 08:49:52 MST

Charlie Stross wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 05:18:38PM -0500, Michael S. Lorrey wrote:
> > Optimally its rights should not be any less important than the
> > mothers.
> I'll agree with the "optimally". In practice, that ain't going to happen
> until pregnancy is a 100% *deliberately incurred* condition -- prerequisites
> for which I see as including (a) very cheap, totally effective, safe
> contraception, and (b) universal sex education.
> (I assume that you're not advocating banning abortion at this time. Are you?)

I'm not. My current position is that legally a fetus is not a citizen of
any nation, and thus has no rights. Until citizenship is conferred at
the time and place of conception, this position will remain the same. I
don't expect right wing fundies to be advocates of the immigration mess
that would be the result of such a policy.... so they will continue to
get nowhere with their own advocacy.

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