Re: *** Writing Letters and Taking Action ***

From: Technotranscendence (
Date: Sat Feb 05 2000 - 00:09:13 MST

On Friday, February 04, 2000 7:10 PM Tim Ventura
> Sometimes I get the feeling that you guys are really that interested in
>because I'm not hearing any real plans for finding ways to help promote
>or real scientific ideas in this area. In a way, that scares me, because
I'm pretty
>sure that all are the only ones vocal enough to have started caring about
it in the
>first place.

There are a few points to be made here.

First, what are _you_ doing to make it happen? Are you practicing life
extension therapies now? Do you maintain an optimal lifestyle? Are you
doing anything to promote life extension research? If not, consider
starting with yourself -- rather than whining about people on the list.

Second, not all of us here are research scientists, marketing experts, or
wealthy with extra cash to startup biotech companies. So, don't blame
anyone on this list if they are not your wet dream of a transhuman.

Third, some research is being done right now. E.g., the Life Extension
Foundation funds such research. You can join it and donate
money to it if you want. There are also many other people and organizations
working along the same lines. Don't think you have to be Extropian or
transhumanist to want to live longer and not age. I think that's pretty
universal, given that aging Chinese men pay loads of money for rhino horn
powder to rejuvenate themselves. (This is not a good therapy, but my point
is the demand for life extension and antiaging therapies is there.)

> OR, as my boss has said repeatedly--"don't confuse effort and results".
>Are we just so much mush--sitting around and telling each other how
>great transhumanism is? Or are we going to do something to actually
>help our misguided human brethren to figure out that they don't have to
>die after 50 or 70 years like everybody has up until then. Our motto
>should be, "Be unique--live indefinitely!" Or something...

Start with yourself. What do you do to live longer and healthier?

BTW, everyone is already unique. Uniqueness in itself is not enough.

> I wrote to the whitehouse today (you can get there from
>and asked Al and Tipper to de-regulate biotech when he takes office, which
>he probably will--because I'm just not seeing the progress from George W.

I guess we'll have to wait until November to find out, but while I admire
your effort, I think it won't have much effect.

Daniel Ust
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