Re: cryonics and abortion

From: Technotranscendence (
Date: Tue Jan 18 2000 - 09:03:00 MST

On Monday, January 17, 2000 9:33 PM john grigg wrote:
> >Perhaps we could analyze this problem from two angles. One would be
> >technical feasability. The other is whether Right to Life groups >would
> >willing to support -- financially, politically, or morally >-- this
> > What do you think?
> Paul Wakfer tried to promote this idea when he created the Prometheus
> Project whose goal was to develop and implement fully reversible
> Of course present suspension methods are NOT reversible and this will
> really limit the ability to drum up public support.

Cryopreservation _is_ reversible for single celled embryos, no? I'm not
saying this is the stage at which to do this, but it makes it seem more
likely to be able to do this at the very early stages of development.

Also, even if it's not reversible now, it certainly seems like it would be
technically easier to solve this problem than it would be to solve it in the
case of adult humans.

> I agree that many women who go in for abortions would not want the baby to
> be cryosuspended. They want the potential human being (child) killed as a
> matter of convenience.

Where did I say all women who abort would want or have to do this!?! We
would only need a small number who would want another option -- aside from
aborting with death for the fetus or continuing the pregnancy.

> Of course where is the father in situations like this?

Non-issue, especially since in the US, where this is most likely to happen,
the father has no legal standing in abortions.

> And to suspend the child would definitely raise expenses for the abortion
> clinics. I don't think they would want their high profit margins to be
> interfered with.

This doesn't matter either. Many or most abortion clinics might not want
this. So what? McDonald's probably doesn't like it when a vegan restaurant
opens next door. Big deal! The point is, if enough women want this and
it's technically feasible, then it can and might happen, regardless of what
abortion clinics think.

But why wouldn't this be merely a high end service the abortion clinics
could provide? I think that might be more likely, just as when I go to the
hair stylist, I can get the $12 haircut or the $30 shampoo and styling.

Off to work!

Daniel Ust

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