Re: Transparent society?: Feds raid hobby vendors

From: crowboy (
Date: Thu Jan 13 2000 - 00:40:03 MST

While sparking the glass pipe, Harvey Newstrom at

> Doug Jones <> wrote on Saturday, January 08, 2000 2:36 pm,
>> I made the original crack about cable descramblers, but on investigating
>> further, found this list of products that were seized from Ramsey
>> Electronics:
>> Most are innocuous, like the FM transmitters and the generic video
>> cameras;

> They were charged with wiretapping. I don't think the cameras were at
> issue. The equipment to listen in on cell phone calls is at issue.
> There is a reason that the original report cited here comes from the 2600
> Hacker's website. It is a little late to deny the hacker connection now,
> after the hackers have worked so hard to defend one of their favorite
> vendors.

if the government can do it to me, i should be able to do it back. going
along with the "transparent society" theory, such a society only works if
the glass is clear from both sides. revunooers don't like it when we can
listen to their conversations and tend to make their displeasure fairly

-- joe crow

    "everything i need to know about life i learned by killing smart people
and eating their brains..."

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