Re: META: The best of times . . .

From: James Rogers (
Date: Sun Jan 09 2000 - 13:53:39 MST

On Sun, 09 Jan 2000, Harvey Newstrom wrote:
> Spike Jones <> wrote on Sunday, January 09, 2000 2:51 am,
> >
> > Speaking of which, where is Mike Lorrey?

Like many other formerly active list members, he is quite busy with work
and various projects. Like I should be :^)

> He seems to have dropped out of the Extropians List and formed his own "ExI
> Freedom" group for Extropians to discuss "guns, other weapons and
> borderline-legal technologies, their legal aspects and technical info and
> implications." See
> <>.

Yep. Not a very active list, as most of the traffic is between myself and
Michael Lorrey.

> They seemed to have been busy stockpiling guns, getting manufacturer's
> permits to make their own guns, and fighting paperwork to purchase machine
> guns in preparation for Y2K. Just before Y2K there was (literal?,
> figurative?) talk about living in a cave for a few months. After Y2K they
> are discussing which state is going to secede from the Union first.

Not an entirely accurate characterization, seeing as how this is being
applied to me. As one of the two people who are active on the list:

Stockpiling guns: Talking about guns doesn't imply stockpiling. I own
significantly fewer as of Y2K than a year prior. Certainly not buying
machine guns for Y2K (machine gun collecting is just that; for
collections). Most gun enthusiasts know that machine guns have a very
limited tactical value that is not applicable to most self-defense
scenarios. Most people buy them because they are fun to shoot, contrary
to the perception of the non-shooting public.

Manufacturing guns: Yep, there was some discussion of using advanced
materials in next generation firearm design. It is a fascinating
engineering topic for some people.

Cave: It was a figure of speech, with reference to the fact that people
had dropped off the lists for several months. I certainly have never
lived in a cave; far from it (I live on a hill top).

Secession: A popular topic with people in some parts of this country.
While it may not be common or relevant where you live, it is a familiar
topic in the Sagebrush states.

The exi-freedom list was not a Y2K list, which you seem to imply. There
actually *are* exi lists that were about Y2K, but this isn't it.

-James Rogers

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