Re: Transparent society?: Feds raid hobby vendors

From: Harvey Newstrom (
Date: Sat Jan 08 2000 - 14:06:12 MST

Doug Jones <> wrote on Saturday, January 08, 2000 2:36 pm,

> I made the original crack about cable descramblers, but on investigating
> further, found this list of products that were seized from Ramsey
> Electronics:

> Most are innocuous, like the FM transmitters and the generic video
> the disguised cameras are most likely to be used for home security (one
> testimonial mentions a smoke alarm video set up to monitor the front porch
> for grandma, another was used to find a person putting threatening notes
> into a schoolgirl's locker); and the only items really close to bending
> law are the downconverters and 800 MHz receivers which could be used to
> listen in on cell phone calls.

They were charged with wiretapping. I don't think the cameras were at
issue. The equipment to listen in on cell phone calls is at issue.

There is a reason that the original report cited here comes from the 2600
Hacker's website. It is a little late to deny the hacker connection now,
after the hackers have worked so hard to defend one of their favorite

Harvey Newstrom <>
Certified Consultant,  Legal Hacker, Engineer, Research Scientist, Author.

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