Re: Message to Membership

From: Eliezer S. Yudkowsky (
Date: Sun Jan 02 2000 - 20:23:02 MST

> Robert Wasley wrote:
> However, when Greg Burch wrote:
> >I've decided that a more systematic approach to concern about sources
> >of opposition to our ideals and
> >goals is necessary. To this end, I've begun work on a website in which I
> >will collect links to groups and resources that appear to present a current
> >or potential threat to the transhumanist agenda.
> This gave me pause to reconsider. This is the Vice President of the
> Extropy Institute whom I assume has leadership support for this
> announcement.

Once again, I don't get it. Why is talking about threats, the simple
common-sense fact that we're going to run into opposition, synonymous
with elitism? I agree that potential opposition should be tracked,
although I don't believe that such lists should be published on the Web.
 I also believe that we should avoid apprising the potential opposition
of our existence, which would kineticize their potential. We should not
directly oppose any who do not directly oppose us; we are not in the
business of conducting subscription drives for Greenpeace.

> Eliezer Yudkowsky in quite correct in his response to Robert Owen's
> note that we exist in a political environment. Of course. Any
> relationship between people is in the broadest sense political, but
> this different. Even so, it is unclear what the opposition is. Already
> people are buying into the program in many ways and values are
> changing. All I can see is that some do not feel things are going fast
> enough. This is "youth" talking.

Speaking on behalf of all youth, everywhere in the Universe, let me say
that my four grandparents are alive, and I would very much like them to
still be alive at such time as I finally take out Death. If you wish
that things were slower, be aware that you are wishing for one hundred
and fifty thousand deaths for every day of delay.

           Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
Typing in Dvorak         Programming with Patterns  Writing in gender-neutral
Voting for Libertarians  Heading for Singularity    There Is A Better Way

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