From: Brett Paatsch (bpaatsch@bigpond.net.au)
Date: Thu Sep 11 2003 - 02:00:43 MDT
Eliezer writes:
> > Suppose that a bowl has 5 red chips and 3 white chips.
> > We sample chips  from the bowl using the following procedure:
> > On each round we draw a  random chip, replace it, and
> > then add another chip of the same color to the bowl.  For
> >  example, if on the first round we happen to draw a red
> > chip, there would then be 6 red chips and 3 white chips to
> > draw from on  the second round.
> >
> > Given that a white chip was drawn on the fourth round,
> > what is the probability that a white chip was drawn on the
> > second round?
> >
> > (This problem is extra bonus evil because it's so easy if you
> > know the rules.)
>
> Evil Hint #1:  Not only is it possible for you to do this problem
> in your head, the answer can be obtained in ONE step.
Aaagh!  ;-)     But this (my effort below) ISN'T Bayes !
        R1       R2             R3          R4 (w drawn is given!)
Avg
w2   5r3w    5r4w         5r5w       5r6w         6/11 )   5/11
                                                    6r5w         5/11 )
                                    6r4w        6r5w         5/11 )
                                                    7r4w         4/11 )
Avg
r2(~w2)     6r3w          6r4w        6r5w          5/11     4/11
                                                    7r4w          4/11
                                    7r3w        7r4w          4/11
                                                    8r3w          3/11
              (3/9 or 4/9)
Avg
w2   5r3w    5r4w        5r5w        5r6w          6/11)    5/11
                                                    6r5w          5/11)
                                    6r4w        6r5w          5/11)
                                                    7r4w          4/11)
Avg
r2(~w2)        6r3w         6r4w      6r5w          5/11     4/11
                                                    7r4w          4/11
                                   7r3w         7r4w          4/11
                                                    8r3w          3/11
              (4/9 or 3/9)
      (3/8)
So  100% = 11
       5 + 4 =  100%
w is 25% more likely to come from a (r2 w chip) group
than the others.
P= 3/8 + 25% = 3/8 + 2/8 = 5/8
 =  62.5%
But this is *not* one step, I didn't do it in my head,
and I would not like to bet that 62.5% is right either ;-)
What's the Bayesian way?
Regards,
Brett
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