RE: just getting started

From: Reason (reason@exratio.com)
Date: Sat Sep 06 2003 - 17:44:01 MDT

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    On-list, since I get to shamelessly promote what I'm trying to do again to
    those who haven't killfiled me by now :)

    A good starting point if you're really lost in the sea of information (as I
    was when I started this whole healthy life extension thing) is the Longevity
    Meme, my website:

    http://www.longevitymeme.org/

    I've tried to provide a way to get straight to the right path forward for
    healthy life extension for people at all levels. In particular, you might
    want to look at:

    Getting Started/Introduction to Healthy Life Extension:
            http://www.longevitymeme.org/start.cfm

    Calorie Restriction and How to Get Started on It:
            http://www.longevitymeme.org/topics/calorie_restriction.cfm

    Regarding the raw essentials on diet and classes of diet, there was a great
    article up on MSNBC a few days ago:
            http://www.msnbc.com/news/960618.asp

    My anecdotal advice on dieting is to go low-calorie (of course). However, I
    have met a number of obese and overweight people for whom that just was not
    feasible -- they benefitted from Atkins to get down to a weight level at
    which they could handle a low-calorie or calorie restriction diet. Don't ask
    me to justify all of that in scientific terms, because I can't. My guess is
    that Atkins prods the body into scavenging fat if you have a bunch of fat to
    scavenge. If you have that bunch of fat to maintain, your physiology makes
    it hard for you to do low-calorie without feeling terrible. Again, all
    anecdotal. Try low-calorie or mild calorie restriction first and see how it
    goes.

    In terms of meat versus vegetable versus dairy, etc: my experience has been
    that being a vegetarian and skipping dairy while on CR is much, much easier.
    Vegetables are easier to cook, more filling for the same amount of calories,
    and you can still get all the nutrients you need.

    The best cookbooks for getting started are the Walford books, I think. They
    offer a lot of procedural and organizational advice related to cooking for
    CR as well as just the recipies. You can buy them at Amazon or via his
    website at www.walford.com. In addition to that, you'll absolutely need to
    have some reference for calorie content, like:

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0397554354/qid=1059380802/sr=1
    -1/ref=sr_1_1/102-6714055-0403332?v=glance&s=books

    which is the one I use. If you have this to hand, you can get comfortable
    experimenting with rice dishes, stir fries, etc, etc.

    As for quitting smoking, the best advice I ever heard was to find someone
    you don't like and bite them on a regular basis instead of lighting up.

    Reason
    http://www.exratio.com

    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-extropians@extropy.org [mailto:owner-extropians@extropy.org]On
    Behalf Of Kevin Freels
    Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 4:05 PM
    To: extropians@extropy.org
    Subject: just getting started

    Two things I have never been able to get past were smoking and diet. For
    some reason, I have always thought that technology would keep me alive
    regardless of how I treated my body.
    Lately, I have re-evaluated this position and found it a bit too risky. I
    quit smoking yesterday and am also trying to improve my diet.
    Do any of you have any suggestions for reading material on either of these
    two items? I have Googled around and found tons of information, but much of
    it conflicts. Do I increase meat, cut back on dairy, decrease caloric
    intake? Does anyone really know what they are talking about here?
    My first assumption has been to quit drinking milk entirely since the
    ability to digest it is a mutation that only affects a minority of us. I've
    always had trouble with it, so I can only assume that it's not right for me.
    But where else do I go from there? Any meal suggestions? Cookbooks? Links to
    reliable information?
    What about quitting smoking? Patches, gum, orange juice, water?
    There's so much information, I can't get through it all!
    I really want to improve my overall potential for a longer natural
    life.Anyone who has solid ideas on this PLEASE respond either on or off
    list.
    Thanks!
    Kevin Freels



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