Re: FWD [forteana] Health Care: USA, Iraq & Canada

From: Brett Paatsch (bpaatsch@bigpond.net.au)
Date: Sat Aug 09 2003 - 03:02:04 MDT

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    Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal@smigrodzki.org> writes:

    > ### The drones who used to work, [and] now can't find
    > the same or better position, but still feel entitled to the(ir)
    > previous wages, [that are] now going to the poor but
    > hardworking people of Calcutta, should indeed face the
    > difficult decision - adapt, demand less, offer more, or
    > make room for those who will.
    >

    Those who are unemployed *do* indeed face difficult
    decisions, that is a given. And drones *do* historically
    die, that too is a given.

    But when one says that they "should" die, that suggests
    to me a moral judgement. Is it? If it is I think it may not
    stand to deeper scrutiny.

    > PS. In case it is not clear, I used a bit of hyperbole to
    > drive home the point that protectionism, aside from being
    > harmful for the US economy, is in the end a form of crude,
    > selfish and inconsiderate short-term greed, depriving
    > others of chances for significantly improving their lives,
    > and impoverishing all.

    That protectionism is harmful for the US economy seems
    to me to be a pretty sweeping statement carrying many
    assumptions such as how quickly and on whose shoulders
    the burden of reducing protectionism should fall.

    "In the end" also seems significant. I wonder if there can
    be "in the end" a US economy that is distinct and separate
    from the economy of the rest of the world? Doesn't seem
    like an end point with much internal logical consistency to
    me.

    And in the interum, are we not really wrestling with the
    difficulties of negotiating our path from where we are now
    towards where we would be?

    I imagine there would be little disagreement between Rafal,
    Hubert and Damien that before "the end" the human condition
    globally could and should be much better than it is now. The
    point then seems to be to find ways to traverse the terrain
    between here and there. This will require negotiation and
    careful deliberation. I wonder what the value of hyperbole
    is, even amongst friends, in the face of such challenges?

    Regards,
    Brett



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