RE: Fermi "Paradox"

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Thu Aug 07 2003 - 21:29:19 MDT

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    BillK writes

    > Well, I have no idea really what the structures and driving forces of a
    > post-singularity civilization will be. And I probably wouldn't
    > understand them if they tried to explain them to me.
    >
    > I am still open to the idea that the Great Silence is because they
    > choose not to be expansionist - at least, not expansionist into the
    > physical universe that we can see with our instruments.

    Randall has already taken you to task for regarding "they" as
    an entity or homogeneous. A chief fact of evolution is *some*
    diversity. (And of course, I speak of evolution in the *most*
    general terms.)

    > But maybe we are the first! Somebody has to be, after all.

    I hope we follow up on an intriguing discussion between Rafal
    and others in which the former mentioned that at any time T
    in an inflationary multiverse (i.e. lots of inflationary bubbles)
    it could well be that almost all bubbles are young (just as in
    some countries with booming rates most people are young). If
    so, it may affect thinking here as to how probable it is that
    we are first here.

    (I will abstain from what I consider to be mostly arm-waving and
    unproductive overly-anthropic type arguments, but won't mind at
    least reading a few.)

    Lee

    P.S. I am even highly skeptical that such a time "T" can have
    universal significance outside a particular universe. Seems
    it might be meaningless. Or does that just prove that I was
    born in the bad, positivist part of the 20th century?



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