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From: Amara Graps (amara@amara.com)
Date: Wed Aug 06 2003 - 04:43:49 MDT

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    Giulio:
    >Here:
    >http://www.americanactionmarket.org/
    > Their website does not say too much, it would be interesting to know more.

    http://wired.com/news/print/0,1294,59879,00.html

    Bush Impeached? Wanna Bet?

    By Leander Kahney

    02:00 AM Aug. 04, 2003 PT

    Though there was an outcry over the Pentagon's terrorism futures market, a
    similar online exchange is in the works to predict what the U.S. government
    is up to.

    The American Action Market will offer various Washington "futures" that can
    be bet upon and traded. Examples include:

    * Which country will the White House threaten next?

    * Who will be the next foreign leader to move off the CIA payroll and
    onto the White House's "most wanted" list?

    * Which corporation with close ties to the White House will be the next
    cloaked in scandal?

    The AAM will begin registering traders in September and plans to open for
    business Oct. 1 -- the same launch date proposed for the Pentagon's
    terrorism market, until it was shelved.

    Like the Pentagon's scrapped Policy Analysis Market, the AAM lets traders
    "bet" on future events by buying and selling futures as though they were
    stocks. The higher the price, the more likely the market believes the event
    will occur. But instead of predicting terrorist strikes, the AAM will
    predict things like the next White House staffer to quit.

    "The idea is to answer some of the most pressing questions in the world:
    What will the White House do next?" said one of the founders, Andrew Geiger,
    an American programmer living in Paris.

    The AAM market is the brainchild of a half-dozen academics from various
    colleges, including the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Yale
    University, New York University and the University of Montreal. Most,
    however, are keeping their identities quiet until they get an institutional
    go-ahead.

    The market was organized on Nettime, a politics and culture mailing list.

    "It's quite amazing, the Pentagon and the White House are very fertile
    imaginative fields these days," Geiger said. "(The AAM project) sounds
    humorous, but that just shows how far things have gone. We've entered the
    realm of fiction. Things really are Dr. Strangelove."

    The AAM project complements another academic project, the Government
    Information Awareness project. The GIA was built in response to the Defense
    Advanced Research Projects Agency's Terrorism Information Awareness program.

    Its organizers hope the market will attract academics, politicians, civil
    servants and other insiders to provide accurate predictions of White House
    behavior. Geiger said even those who read the newspapers are qualified to be
    traders.

    "Our goal is to have people with insight into how the White House works,"
    said Geiger. "There are a lot of people who spend a lot of time thinking
    about what's going on in the world these days. A lot of that thought could
    be transferred into the system, giving you trading data that will tell you
    what's really going on."

    Geiger added, "Who knows whether it will reveal stuff? Anyway, it will be
    engaging."

    The public, he noted, will be able to follow trades on the market's website.

    David Pennock, a senior research scientist at Overture Services, said
    futures markets have proven to be very good predictors of many different
    kinds of events, from the weather to election outcomes.

    "It's one of the best, if not the best, way to predict the future," he said.
    "It's a good, well-known method for getting information that's distributed
    around the world."

    Bob Forsythe, a University of Iowa professor who helped organize the Iowa
    Electronic Markets, which speculate on election results, agreed that futures
    are reliable indicators of what's going to happen next -- if the traders are
    knowledgeable.

    "You have to have informed traders or they don't work very well," he said.
    "Who are the informed traders in an assassination market, for example? The
    same's true for predicting the White House."

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