From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Aug 04 2003 - 11:04:03 MDT
--- p_chikara@hotmail.com wrote:
> I used the word "extropians" in a serious discussion recently and
> once again
> was reminded that extropians sound like goofy cultists.
> Not being able to find out why they were thinking that, or have them
> forward
> me a link where one serious extropian sound like they say, I had to
> imagine
> the problem they might have that makes their opinion. So here it is,
> formulated as a question accordingly to the 7th extropian principle
> wich
> invites constructive criticism :
>
> What would be the best answer to someone who would say that the primo
> body and mind uploading are allegoric figures that transhumanists
> and extropians are offering that permits to fantasm a body removed
> from it's attaches with the present, the here and now, impossible
> bodies, wich makes them promoter of an ascetic ideal, who hates the
> body and the flesh (and are possibly even worse than christians at
> it, with their angels without nose or phallus)and consequently
> alienation (alienation is to be understood here as "being estranged
> to oneself").
>
> I have a working answer but I would like to hear what others think
> about this.
Removing one's attachments to the present does not in any way signify
either a hater of the body and flesh or in any way alienation from
their bodies. Instead, we simply seek to make our bodies more useful,
more capable, so that future people will NOT reach a conclusion that
their bodies are a detriment to progress. Remaining satisfied with a
body with proven physical limits, limits which impede our ability to
function in the real world of today, not to mention tomorrow, is a
romanticist/mystical fantasy that idealizes the past over the present
or the future. Insisting that others remain unimproved is an imposition
of corporeal fascism upon the body of the individual, a very ultimate
sort of totalitarianism that recognises no limits on the ability of the
community to impose it's will on the individual, even into the mind and
body. It is luddism at its worst.
=====
Mike Lorrey
"Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
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