RE: Meta-Foxes (was: Fermi Paradox)

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Sat Jul 26 2003 - 21:23:56 MDT

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    Steve wrote

    > It's sort of for this reason that pounds (mass) being consumed doesn't
    > explain the behavior (non-foxiness) we're trying to explain.

    I think that it's the non-existence of the meta-foxes which is
    the issue. We're the foxes, and I am pretty sure that in Robin's
    nice analogy, compute-resources (e.g. planets and suns) are the
    rabbits.

    Spike wrote

    > Eliezer [wrote]
    > > ...I'm not sure I understand the analogy.
    > > My guess: We're the fox, the rabbits are
    > > the uneaten stars we see all around us,
    > > and the metafoxes are the supposed
    > > destroyers of colonizers?...

    > If that is the point of the analogy I missed it too.

    Hmm. From what you write next, it seems that you
    are in complete synch (so far as I can see) with
    what Robin is saying.

    > Humans have rescued the life on this planet from
    > universal extinction.

    Extremely thought provoking, as usual. Let me see:
    you are talking about all the life that's now dead
    beneath our feet which only human beings are
    liberating again? Excellent! Turning dead dinosaurs
    into more people (or SI's) is a good thing.

    > The nearby stars might have planets with carbon
    > that is already mostly coal and the life thereon
    > nearly dead. It is our sacred duty as technologically
    > capable beings, to get there with our nanoprobes,
    > determine if the case requires our help and if so,
    > start digging out that coal and oil and burning it,
    > forthwith.

    Well, I hope that you are either being a bit jocular,
    or you really just mean liberating the energy to turn
    it into life. (Well, okay, I do admit that it's fun
    to have fun at the expense of the Greens.)

    > Every moment we hesitate, more potential lives are
    > being nonlived.

    That's the spirit! The true spirit of humankind!
    Forward!

    Lee



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