RE: Fermi "Paradox"

From: Robert J. Bradbury (bradbury@aeiveos.com)
Date: Thu Jul 24 2003 - 06:49:33 MDT

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    On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Robin Hanson commenting on comments
    by Emlyn and Damien (the thread of which has gotten rather
    complex) wrote:

    > The aberration is temporary because DNA will soon be replaced by other
    > faster-changing forms of genes, including those you mention.

    Just to offer some related observations...

    - People would be very lucky to have 20 kids -- most humans throughout
    evolutionary history died long before they could have raised that number.

    - Given the huge amount of junk DNA in mammalian genomes (and the
    success of mammals over the last 60+ million years) and the fact
    that the junk is mostly remnants of self-relocating genetic
    elements that would happen to carry other genes along with
    them (speeding up evolution) it would appear that there may be some
    selective advantage for faster evolution. We can't say for sure about
    this since we don't have the genomes of say birds, reptiles or amphibians
    (which have been around longer than mammals and have similar complexity).

    - *But* given the Fugu genome which is very old and relatively
    small compared with mammals (it is a vertebrate so the complexity
    should not be "too" different) it would appear evolution can
    develop a means to interfere with the elements that would
    naturally tend speed up evolution (how this is accomplished isn't
    known at this time).

    - There has been proposed some interesting secondary effects in
    evolution involved in nurturing (or promoting the survival of)
    offspring [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/07/030717091254.htm].
    Similar effects may be promoting the development of "ethical
    behaviors".

    - Language (memes) seems to have played a role in speeding up
    human evolution over the last 100,000+ years. But one might
    wonder whether memes and genes are not competing to see which
    can drive evolution faster without completely driving the
    carriers towards elimination.

    - At the simple chemical level DNA is not a terribly bad information
    storage mechanism (compared with say a Drexlerian polymer tape,
    e.g. Nanosystems sec. 12.6.4). But I suspect that there may be
    some interesting limits on the equipment that allows an ever
    faster changing of genes/memes. So the process seems unlikely
    to continue indefinitely.

    Robert



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