Re: FWD (SPAM) Solve your woman problems forever

From: Anders Sandberg (asa@nada.kth.se)
Date: Tue Jul 15 2003 - 23:30:10 MDT

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    On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 04:12:05PM -0700, Mike Lorrey wrote:
    >
    > --- Anders Sandberg <asa@nada.kth.se> wrote:
    > > I will likely move digitally shortly, so don't get surprised by a new
    > > .net.persona (but I still don't know how to transfer the parts of my
    > > mind that live in akira.nada.kth.se - that is even harder than moving
    > > email).
    >
    > You can edit up to 50 files at a time with Edit+ (see
    > http://www.editplus.com) and do global search and replace of your old
    > email address with the new one. I use this to mass update websites as
    > well as correct corrupted address files.

    Yes, but that would only solve the problem of changing email addresses.
    One major cause of spam is spambots trawling the net for email
    addresses, so giving them the new one would be a mistake
    (http://www.cdt.org/speech/spam/030319spamreport.pdf). It has to be
    properly mungled, preferably without confusing people too much.

    > > The pay for email is IMHO an elegant solution (since it is not based
    > > on fallible email filters, ineffectual and coercive spam laws or
    > > internet disrupting black holing but by a voluntary change of the
    > > economics of the situation), but I doubt it can easily be
    > > implemented unless we get good micropayment aggregation systems (I
    > > read some papers about them, and the cryptographics is wonderful
    > > and ingenious, but the economy and sociology is far harder to
    > > solve).
    >
    > The only real problem is getting paymail implemented as a W3C standard.

    Hmm, that doesn't seem very hopeless. It just takes time.

    > I think that the 20M+ people already signed up for the do-no-call
    > database should be enough of a wakeup to the software companies that
    > the market wants this technology. Even if we can get a web standard
    > adopted, each company will try to implement it their own way, which
    > will screw things up for a good while.
    >
    > I wish we could get some rich extrope to fund a non-profit effort to
    > get this implemented across the market. I would call it The C-Mail
    > Project (C as in cents).

    We already have the system presented at Extro 5 by the Javien people.
    Maybe it can be generalized.

    > I even have an idea to incentivize it for the mail application people:
    > people the download c-mail enabled software can pay the software maker
    > with the c-money they receive to register the software. Since most
    > email software is a loss leader, this would finally profitize a
    > non-profit product.

    Interesting idea!

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