From: Samantha Atkins (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Thu Jun 12 2003 - 02:24:06 MDT
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 19:25, Emlyn O'regan wrote:
> Mitch wrote:
> > The educated are the ones taking it up the ass, nowadays, not
> > the blue collar folks. Or don't you consider developers, and
> > network admins educated? These are the folks whose jobs have
> > been and are being off-shored.
>
> I don't agree with this. It is true that there's a savage downturn in IT,
> but that doesn't mean there is no work, it just means that we can't charge
> the outrageous fees that we used to. Live with it, it's a market economy.
> We all benefitted wildly and disproportionately from the bubble, now we are
> out in the cold for a while. It's a good opportunity to learn something...
> economies have cycles, and if the boom you are in seems too good to be
> true, it might be a good idea to try saving.
No, we did not benefit "wildly and disporportionately" unless we happened to
be in a company with a good IPO and cashed out at the right time. General
salaries simply were not that high. Some consulting for trendy stuff got
pretty out there for a time but that was about it. Whereas now, now people
who have trained and worked hard in this field for many years have been out
of work a damn long time. Not low wages even, no wages. This is not a
simple normal market readjustment. The economy was reamed and many IT folks
are bearing a goodly share of the brunt. If economies have cycles that
throw millions of the highly trained out of work for many months then those
cycles damn well need to be fixed! Saying after the fact, in an economy
that goes out of its way to create as much personal debt as possible, that
people should learn saving, is quite cold.
>
> Anyway, what's wrong with skilled Indians having jobs? Who is to say they
> deserve them less (if that matters) than USians?
>
What is wrong with people losing everyting they own through no fault of their
own and despite great work ethic, skills, knowledge and so on? What is
wrong with a world that is largely capricious economically?
- samantha
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