From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Jun 10 2003 - 13:58:26 MDT
--- matus@matus1976.com wrote:
> >
> You said in response to Max Plumm:
>
> Max Plumm said, amongst other things...
> " This is even more appalling when one considers that every civilian
> life lost in Iraq could've been saved had Saddam Hussein simply
> relinquished power by the time of the U.S. imposed deadline. "
>
> This is the second time you've said this in the last day or two. You
> don't also say "This is even more appalling when one considers that
> every civilian life lost in Iraq could've been saved had the
> coalition of the willing not attacked in the first place." Why not?
>
> Emlyn
>
> To which I responded:
>
> He probably didnt say that because it is completely absurd.
>
> It is difficult for me to even began to coalesce the reasons why such
> a statement is repulsive to me as an extropian and an person who
> values human life. Regardless of your opposition to the Iraq war,
> had the goal of the coalition been simple to remove Saddam just
> because they wanted to, this would have *still* had more moral
> validity than a murderous dictator remaining in power, simply
> because he was a murderous dictator.
> Dictators have *no right* to be dictators!
I have to agree with Michael Dickey here. Blaming coalition forces for
Iraqi deaths is like blaming hostage rescuers for deaths of hostages in
the hands of insane terrorists. It is the classic hostage taker to
negotiator, "Now see what you made me do" moral equivalency horse
puckey.
Especially considering how surgical the allied operation was, with
probably the smallest percentage of civilian deaths of any war in
history, it is specifically criminal to accuse the coalition forces of
being no better than Saddam.
I'm not suprised at all by this attitude. The left has been getting
ever more hostile to US administrations, esp GOP administrations, since
Ronald Reagan, especially GOP administrations that consistently prove
leftist theory to be abjectly wrong and morally bankrupt.
Ron Reagan faced down the Soviets and made them blink: the left thought
he was gonna cause Armageddon (they were wrong). Reagan enacted the
then largest tax break in US history, which ended the Carter recession,
double digit inflation and unemployment, and presided over the then
longest economic expansion in US history, DESPITE democrats controlling
congress increasing spending on welfare entitlements faster than at any
time in US history. Bush I finished the Cold War, brought Noriega to
trial, flagged Kuwaiti tankers, and assembled the largest military
force since WWII and won the most decisive military victory in history
in the shortest time, and the left could only make jokes about his
inability to handle a grocery store bar code scanner.
Bush II has done even better and there is nothing that makes the left
steam like GOP success. The problem is that they need to invent
scandals where none exist to match GOP investigation of scandals in the
Clinton White House that were real. I'm just waiting for the left to
invent a new White House Intern...
=====
Mike Lorrey
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